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Bishop
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...If you think we're getting Delmon Young for Jack Wilson, you're insane. Pat - we're Pirates fans. I think the insane part goes without saying. On this matter, however, I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I think NH has missed the window on dealing Jack Wilson by incorrectly judging the market for a light-hitting, decent glove shortstop. Maybe the Dodgers will still be interested, but I have to think that with Furcal rejecting the A's offer last week, they are back in the mix for him. |
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MrPedriqueIfYou'reNasty
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... The Everett deal is proof to me that Detroit has no idea what they're doing, he'll be lucky to OPS 60 this year and his range isn't what it used to be I would have to assume. Why bother signing talent if you don't do everything that it takes to win with it? And really, aren't the odds of JJ Putz having major surgery higher than him being a dominant closer? I will never understand the over valuation of closers. |
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Tiiimmmmmmmmmyyyyyy
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... If we sign Eckstein does that mean we can't resign Mienty? The amount of gritty, vetranosity with both would probably be illegal. |
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Nate
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... If we sign Eckstein, I'll freaking flip, precisely because we're dealing away a shortstop that's almost exactly like him but a little better. Unless Eckstein is coming way cheaper than Wilson, (which I doubt, what with the whole "WORLD SERIES MVP! ZOMGZ!" thing under his belt) that's just a dumb and redundant decision. |
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w.k. kortas
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... The fact that Dave Dombrowski had a man love for Jack Wilson unseen since the halcyon days of Lloyd McClendon, and then spurned him to sign Brian Bixler, Sr., tells you all you need to know about the Tigers' future |
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gregschuler
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... Eckstein made only 2.5 mil last season - teams have correctly valued his worth even if sports writers and fans overestimate his gritty whiteness. Eckstein might get a multi-year deal, but he will not be more expensive or as expensive as Wilson. A clubhouse with Eckstein and Mientkiewicz - is that physically possible or would the Hadron collider explode? |
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gregschuler
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... Everett is a minus, but if healthy and playing to his defensive capabilities, he is an asset (like Wilson). When you have Granderson, Ordonez, Cabrera and Guillen (if they play to norms) you can carry Everett. If Furcal goes back to LA, Wilson stays here. I doubt Toronto would want anything to do with Huntington and I can't see a team that needs a veteran expensive offensive deadweight with a declining glove. Then again, everyone crowed about the value Huntington got for Nady and Bay at the trade deadline, so who cares if the Pirates keep Wilson. |
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gregschuler
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... Why not Jon Garland as a veteran starter? He underperformed last season, but with a league change - he makes some sense. Of course, it might take Gil Meche money to get it done, but Garland eats innings, has never been hurt and has been productive in a tougher league. |
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w.k. kortas
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...[but Garland eats innings, has never been hurt and has been productive in a tougher league. |
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MrPedriqueIfYou'reNasty
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... If Garland is willing to grow a ridiculous mustache, then we can talk. |
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MrPedriqueIfYou'reNasty
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... The thing about Detroit is that they scored only a slightly above average amount of runs while allowing a ton. The problem is that they're stepping way down offensively at SS, 3B, and probably C unless you think that Laird can hit outside of Texas while crossing their fingers and hoping that their pitching gets better. Its not really a recipe for success. |
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Pat
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... Laird will have to be an upgrade over Inge/Pudge at the plate. Those two were terrible last year. And Renteria only hit about as well as Jack Wilson last year, so if Everett is healthy and plays good defense he's a big upgrade over him at short. |
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MrPedriqueIfYou'reNasty
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... Really? Renteria was that bad? Well then how did he get a big contract this offseason...? Oh. Ohhhhhhh! |
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gregschuler
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... Correction - Eckstein made 4.5 million last. He will be lucky to see that again this season, but really, it only takes one team. RE: Garland - yeah, there are risks, but a league change might help. He is a ground ball pitcher, so that helps if the Pirates end up keeping Wilson. That said, the Pirates won't feel inclined to offer a Meche-type cotnract ($11 mil per season) so it won't matter in the end. RE: Detroit - please note the state "if they play to norms" as my qualifier. Detroit has issues, but from their point of view, if those aforementioned players stay healthy and produce at career norm rates, you can hide an Everett in the lineup, assuming Everett is healthy. Defensive efficiency is taking hold very quickly amoney front offices as an extension of run prevention and way to improve pitching. The Pirates would be wise to follow. |
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