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Vlad
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... 2003 was the year I gave up on Littlefield once and for all. When I heard about the Ramirez trade, I just staggered around in circles for a while, like a dog that's been hit by a car but not killed outright. I think it's truly remarkable that the two best things Littlefield ever did (getting Bay in the Giles trade and getting Freddy/not giving up Gonzo) both happened by accident. I think that deep down, Tike's actually an OK dude. I read a Baltimore article in spring training about how he was doing his level best to help Adam Jones (the CF, not the thug) adjust to playing CF in the majors, even though it meant that he was basically punching his own ticket for AAA. |
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Will
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... 2003 also gave us Jeff Reboulet, Mike Williams as the Worst All-Star in History, and Scarecrow Tavarez and his antics on the mound. Really, as far as pure entertainment goes, 2003 is a strong second behind 1997 during the streak. As bad as the 2003 season actually was for the franchise, I probably had more fun going to the ballpark during that season than during most others. Of course, 1997 also turned out to be awful for the franchise for completely different reasons. I guess the only way we can have fun anymore is if we put a team on the field that ends up ruining the organization for a half-dozen years down the road. |
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Tim
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... Looking at that box score of the Tike Redman game, I just realized I have no clue who Jim Mann was, even in the slightest. |
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Vlad
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... We put Bronson Arroyo on waivers to clear space for Mann. Minor league closer from the Astros, never really got much of a shot here. Think he's retired now. |
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Curtis
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... I was at the Red Sox rainout game as well. Probably spent $20 eating at the stadium before it was called. I don't think I've ever heard boos like that before. I can't even discuss the Ramirez trade. |
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JerryG
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... The one thing I remember about that season, besides that awful Ramirez trade, was going to a game in late August in Milwaukee. I had bought the tickets a few days before the Ramirez trade and even in late August I was still pissed about it. The Pirates played pretty badly that day. Josh Fogg started and gave up 4 runs in 5 innings and the Pirates couldn't get anything going until the top of the 9th. Mark Corey, however, let the Brewers win in the bottom of the 9th. Three days later, Brian Giles was a Padre. Yeah, the Giles trade was the official "A broken clock is right twice a day" trade of the Littlefield era... |
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Handsome Sam
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... Jeez...reading about 2003 breaks me down. Not in a little way. Not even in a "Holy Damn That's Terrible, I Need a Drink" kind of way. No, it reduces me to Brad Pitt at the end of Se7en "WHAT'S IN THE BOX???!" depths of despair. While I appreciate the series, Pat, and it shows a level of dedication and commitment that is nothing short of remarkable, I'm not sure I can read 5 more of these without being heavily sedated. |
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Charlie
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... We put Bronson Arroyo on waivers to clear space for Mann. Actually, Mann was added to the roster in October 2002, and Arroyo wasn't claimed until early February 2003. I thought Arroyo was dumped to make room for Jeff Suppan, who was added on January 31. I believe Mann was on the 40-man when the Pirates dumped Arroyo, though, which means they effectively picked Mann over Arroyo. |
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gregschuler
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... But Arroyo had cornrows and an attitude problem! From what I know, Brian Graham really pushed Arroyo out the door of the organization. Better to have compliant pitchers with brush cuts, I guess, than a pretty useful starting pitcher. |
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Dave P
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... Let's not forget that DL also gave the Cubs Lofton and traded Simon there for Ray Sadler. Living in Chicago and hating the Cubs I thought I was getting the ultimate punishment for being a Bucs fan: watching the Cubs go to the World Series with 4 ex-Pirates in the starting lineup. Thankfully, St. Bartman got his hands and throwback walkman in the way of Alou (another former PIrate) and gave me the most enjoyable ending to any Cubs game ever (yes, even better than the Mackoviak baby game). |
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Will
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... I think it was Matt Herges who took Arroyo's space on the 40-man roster. As we all know, Herges was subsequently cut before the start of the regular season because we needed to have another lefty in the pen. Of course, this lefty was Dennys Reyes instead of anyone actually good at baseball, and good ol' named-after-a-restaurant was gone by the end of May. But as someone pointed out, Arroyo had cornrows and liked playing his guitar in the clubhouse and fell off his porch once while he was trying to build a deck so he was an awful influence on the other players and had to be gotten rid of ASAP. |
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Vlad
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... Trading Simon for Sadler wasn't the problem. Trading for Simon in the first place was the problem. And re-signing him after that didn't help either. I have no hard feelings toward Sadler. 2-for-8 with a home run: Most emergency callups wish they were so lucky. |
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Vlad
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... In case anyone forgets the circumstances around his callup, Craig had been hurt the day before, and the team had to scramble to find an OF to use. Sadler got the word late, hopped in his car, drove from Altoona to Philly, caught a flight to Phoenix, and showed up at the ballpark... where Lloyd immediately mistook him for a construction worker. Welcome to the big leagues, rook. |
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Charlie
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... According to BB-Ref, you're off by a month or so there. I'm pretty sure it was Suppan. |
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Alex Rutkowski
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... Don't forget about the Rule 5 snafu. That happened in 2003 after the season. maybe it will be in 2004 |
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