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Game 41: Nationals 5 Pirates 4 E-mail
Written by Pat Lackey   
Thursday, 21 May 2009 23:38

Bad Gorzelanny bullpen meltdown, wasted start, loss to a team we should've beaten, blah blah blah whatever. I've written the post-mortem for this loss countless times the past four years. Tonight, I want to talk about John Russell.

I'm going to be up front. I like John Russell. I know a lot of people don't. I don't bring it up because I don't think the manager is worth fighting over. People get worked up over batting order, I don't. Sometimes JR loves the bunt a little bit too much, but I've accepted that just about every manager does. Sometimes I think he hooks the pitcher too soon or too late, but I'd think that about anyone that managed the Pirates. And sometimes, it drives me insane that he's so maddeningly low key, but by all indications the players respect the hell out of the guy that and ultimately, I think that's all that matters. Unlike the two managers that preceded him, Russell very rarely makes anything about himself, and I think that's a great quality in a manager.

All that being said there's nothing that bugs me more than a manager that takes the bat out of the hands of a young player. One of the worst sins the Pirates have committed in the last ten years was relegating Craig Wilson to pinch-hitting duty for the first three years of his career while a parade of faceless stiffs played instead. And so, there's very little that makes my blood boil more than seeing Ramon Vazquez called upon to pinch hit for Andy LaRoche in the ninth inning of a one-run game. Russell did something similar last week and I censored myself. I won't this time. It's complete bullshit.

I could run out splits that support my point, but there's no reason. Andy LaRoche is one of the most important Pirates on the team going forward and since his awful start, he's been one of the best hitters on the team (.304/.381/.461 since April 17th before Friday's game, in which he added another hit). His awful stint with the Pirates last year combined with his hitless streak this year would've been enough to make some managers give up on a guy. Russell didn't, and while the front office certainly deserves some credit for that, Russell's a part of it as well. But my god, there's nothing more emasculating for a hitter than to be pinch-hit for with the game on the line and there's just no way to justify trotting Vazquez up there tonight (or any of the nights that it's happened recently) instead of LaRoche. You want to give LaRoche a night off to get Vazquez some swings against a tough righty? Be my guest. But Andy LaRoche is the starting third baseman. He's making a good case for himself as the third baseman of the future. Ramon Vazquez is a utility guy that can't hit anything right now. Honestly, I can't think of one thing that Russell could do right now that would piss me off more.


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Philip said:

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Couldn't agree more. I'm not a JR-hater, but if he keeps this up i will be. ...STOP PINCH HITTING FOR ANDY!
 
May 22, 2009
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JerryG said:

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Bullshit. Total Bullshit move taking Andy out tonight. Andy's a better hitter and is more than capable at handling 3B defensively. I just don't understand it...
 
May 22, 2009
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Raleigh St. Clair said:

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you're absolutely right. the worst part is that it's not the first time he's done it--as you said. Andy LaRoche has been really good for a month now and he's one of my favorite guys to see up in a big situation. Why? Because he has gotten big hits for us a lot in the past month. If you want to pinch hit for Jaramillo or even if you want to hit Hinske or Moss if he's sitting or some lefty with comparable ability for LaRoche, I'll be disappointed because I don't think Andy deserves it, but don't give me fucking Ramon Vasquez in these situations. It's total bullshit. At this moment, and it could change, but he's got to be the third baseman of the future for us, so this is inexcusable.

Thanks WHYGAVS, I was content with the Pens win and 3/4 from the Natinals, but your post got me fired up again. How cursed are we (or at least I) that the Pens can go up 2-0 in the conference finals and this Bucs loss is still ruining my night?
 
May 22, 2009
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andrew13 said:

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agree 1000%. i turned either during a commercial break or intermission on the pens and saw the 9th (probably caught half the game this way) and when he pinch hit for LaRoche i started swearing and throwing shit at the tv right then. not only didn't he hit, he struck out looking on 3 pitches. that cost us the game right there IMO, LaRoche had 2 RBI to that point and has been hitting great lately. and Pat, unlike you i'm not a JR fan, and it really pissed me off when he did the same thing last week. he seems to have a terrible idea of when to make a change in a game, be it pull a starter to early or to late, sitting Young and Moss when both have been playing great, or the fact that he never shows a lick of emotion. bring back Lloyd.
 
May 22, 2009
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Adam said:

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I completely agree with this and I was cussing Russell out as soon as the pinch hitter was announced. Andy LaRoche has been producing for the past month and is a cornerstone for building this team. He has the offensive potential to be similiar to Jason Bay. Pinch hitting Vasquez is complete BS. We might as well bring back Joe Randa and start him over Andy too.
 
May 22, 2009
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bucconewbie said:

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not much to say except "ditto" to everything that's been said. as soon as i saw JR pull andy, i knew pat would be all over it...rightly so. dumbest move i've seen since the 8th inning when he left gorzo in. if you're gonna play the leftie/rightie matchup, why not take gorzo out sooner?
 
May 22, 2009
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azibuck said:

Runescape Gold!
I don't know what the hell you call that post, but runescape gold is what
happens when you pinch hit RV for Li'l. Or when you overslide a bag, or bunt
directly into a wheel play anyway even when the 3B is standing 40 feet from the
plate. That's gold, Jerry! Runescape gold! If I'd had a blog during all this
losing, I'd like to think I'd have called it Runescape Gold.
 
May 22, 2009
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BJ said:

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I thought Andy was hurt because there was no other explanation. I will give this to JR, he made me mad enough at the Pirates to throw my remote and accidentally hit my dog in the head. Don't think I was that into a Bucco game in a long time.

Horrible move!
 
May 22, 2009
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Arnold Rothstein said:

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I think that what Russell was thinking about was avoiding the double play. I don't agree with managing not to lose, but if that's what he was thinking I can at least see his point.
 
May 22, 2009
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DGL said:

Avoiding the DP
To avoid a DP, you start the runner. You don't put in a lefty batter who's .173/.302/.192 against RHP to pinch-hit for a right batter who's .271/.350/.402 against RHP.
 
May 22, 2009
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Stuart Myers said:

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What was the most infuriating about that whole sequence is that yes stats say lefties hit righties better and vice-versa. So if Russell is sticking to that logic why do you have Gorzo pitching to Ryan Zimmerman one of the best hitters in the league, and then bring in Chavez. I want to see what little laroche can do in clutch situations, but Russell hasn't elected to do that pinch hitting him in those situations more often than not.
 
May 22, 2009
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runescape items said:

good
spam DELETED by pat.
 
May 22, 2009
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Derek B. said:

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I like JR a lot, but I'm with you on little LaRoche. I don't like that call, either.
 
May 22, 2009
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Rod Serling said:

I can think of one thing...
that would piss me off more:

That would be to leave Gorzelanny in the game to face right handed hitters with right handers in the pen warmed up and ready to go.

Explain that.
 
May 22, 2009
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Greg said:

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I haven't been able to catch a whole lot of gams, but JR pinch-hitting for li'l LaRoche reminds me of my life-I work in radio, and I'm not one to boast, but I felt I was good enough to be on-the-air, but the PD said I had a "speech impediment", which I KNOW I don't, which is why I moved out of PA to get a better opportunity in a bigger city, but my point is, wouldn't that possibly be dangerous to Andy's confidence? I'd be tempted to think that Andy may begin to feel like JR doesn't believe enough in Andy to let him hit in a key situation. C'mon, JR, let younger players hit or play in key situations-how are you going to know what their abilities are if you don't give 'em a chance?
 
May 25, 2009
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Greg said:

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I meant GAMES, not "gams"-been to many games in the 'Burgh and know that with a big population there, I've seen nice "gams" given some of the nice-looking female population. ;)
 
May 25, 2009
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