Day 1 Draft Review - We've heard this song before E-mail
Written by Pat Lackey   
Tuesday, 09 June 2009 22:59

After last year's draft, several people wrote that it was a refreshing change to be able to recap the Pirates' draft by writing things like, "Signability issues" instead of "reach" or "overdraft" again and again. And they were right, it was a big departure from how things were done in the past and it brought a much-needed infusion of talent into the Pirates' system. That being said, guess which words I'd use to describe three of the four Pirate picks on Day 1 of the 2009 draft?

A lot of this hinges on the pick of Tony Sanchez. The first round is the best opportunity to get talent in the Major League draft and with Aaron Crow, Bobby Borchering, Grant Green, and a bevy of talented high school arms on the board, the Pirates went for a kid who wants to be (and probably projects to be) Yadier Molina. There's nothing actually wrong with Yady, he's a good, solid starting catcher that plays great defense and hits a little bit. Given nothing but his defense, I suppose Sanchez will probably be a starter for the Pirates somewhere down the road. But that's not good enough for that pick.

What really, really worries me is the way that Huntington describes Sanchez. To call him the third best player on their board frankly seems dishonest to me. The top fifty or so prospects are heavily scouted and I think the highest I saw Sanchez ranked by anyone was twentieth (if I'm wrong, please correct me). There was no speculation about Sanchez going higher than the back end of the first round until the Pirates became interested about a week ago. There's a lot more room for disagreement in this draft than most other drafts, but to call Sanchez the third best player suggests that they see something in him that no other scouts anywhere see. This certainly isn't a Moskos/Wieters repeat, but it's not a very good pick by the Pirates and there were probably ten other guys (several of them "signable") that I would've rather seen taken there.

Beyond that, the next three picks weren't bad, but that's about the best I can say about them. As soon as you move outside of first-round talent, the discrepancies in scouting get a lot bigger and so it's more believable that the Pirates see something in a guy like Brooks Pounders that, say, Baseball America doesn't. In fact, some of the more positive reports I've seen about Pounders say that he's a big guy with four pitches (very good for a high schooler), that doesn't have a lot of velocity. With his size (6'5", 240 lbs.) he certainly might develop that velocity and if the Pirates' scouts see a reason to believe he can do that, he's a fine pick for #53. Similarly, Victor Black can hit 95 and has a good slider, so if the Pirates think they can fix his control problems, he's a good pick at #49. Evan Chambers at #83 is another weird body type (5'9", 220) for a ball player, but they showed some video of his swing on MLB.com when the Pirates picked him and it looks like a good, quick, powerful stroke. He was at a community college in Florida, but he was a UF recruit out of high school and again, I'm more willing to believe the Pirates saw something different in him that made him that particular pick.

The problem is that one of the team's big rationales for picking Sanchez was that it'd give them more money to spend on picks later in the draft. Black, Pounders, and Chambers shouldn't take much more than slot money to sign, especially because Pounders and Chambers could be slight reaches where the Pirates picked them. They're not necessarily bad picks, but when coupled with Sanchez, the whole day brings what seems like a pretty pedestrian haul. The Pirates did spend a lot of money in later rounds (Grossman in 6, Miller in 20) last year, but off the bat this draft doesn't even remotely resemble last year's. They have plenty of picks to redeem themselves, but right now this draft is off to an awfully disappointing start.


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Carnegie Chip said:

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What irks me is one big reason we traded Nate was (according to NH) our minor league pitching depth was horrible. So we pick a catcher? And not even one that projects as a power hitter (another need) but a defensive specialist? Really?

Does this make sense to anybody? Anybody?

Well, I guess it could be called a good move. Two years ago they would have over drafted by 40 slots. Today it is only 20 slots. PROGRESS!!
 
June 10, 2009
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bwzimmerman said:

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well, don't call it too disappointing until we see how those picks they missed shake out. i was bummed to see Gibson & Scheppers grabbed up, but lets see what it takes those other teams to sign Crow, et al.

obviously though, this puts more pressure on what they lay out for Latin America next month.
 
June 10, 2009
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HandsomeSam said:

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Damn you, Moskos!!!

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/orioles_top_prospect_wins?utm_source=a-section
 
June 10, 2009
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GrtSm said:

Wow
With the 49th and 53rd pick, why couldn't we draft Mychal Givens???? He was projected as a first rounder, while I had never heard of the bums they took. In fact, I never really had heard much about Tony Sanchez either.
 
June 10, 2009
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bucsucks said:

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very disappointing - i'm only an outsider looking in but a lot of really good arms on the board when they made their pick - in fact if they wanted this kid i think he would have made it to the second round - no one knows for sure - i've supported the new front office all the way (even with mcclouth) - till now - this screams of money and signability and against what "they" have said out of their own mouths - going to take "the best talent available" "can never have enough pitching" - on the heels of an unpopular trade and now this NH may not have stooped to the depths of DL, but i'm sure in some peoples mind he's getting close
 
June 10, 2009
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cjc said:

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Was at the draft party at PNC last night and NH had some interesting remarks
about Crow in particular---liked him better last year, always worry about a guy
who takes a step back at age 22, quite frankly we had several high school arms
ahead of him, etc. First thing he said was I know the Sanchez pick is going to
upset a lot of people. Right or wrong, he has a plan and isn't dissuaded by fan
base reaction.
 
June 10, 2009
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ndbrian said:

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I think we have a definite strategy..

I really think the Buccos might be implementing a larger strategy with this pick. And it's summed up below.

DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE

You can see it in the McLouth trade for a plu defender. You can see it in grabbing LaRoche and Moss. You can see it in this pick. You can see it in picking up Jaramillo and Diaz. While Alvarez isn't exactly a defensive wizard, he happened to be an exception b/c he's that good with the bat.

That's why I think they're holding Steve Pearce back. I think NH has realized that amazing defense is much much cheaper than a team of hitters. So we can keep people around longer and still win.

If we become so good defensively that we make up for the lack of runs, maybe it'll work. We'll loook a lot like the mid-80's Cardinals, no power hitters, save a Jack Clark, speed at the top, great defense, above average pitching (the last one is a stretch I realize). And we even have Nyjmo, who reminds me a ton of Willie McGee (never sees a pitch he doesn't like and never sees a catcher he doesn't want to run on)

Just a theory.
 
June 10, 2009
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w.k. kortas said:

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While I agree that Sanchez has some significant red flags--when you take pains to emphasize your signability, that's not a good sign, and he will more than likely see some of the breaking stuff he's said to have problems with at some point in his pro career--Sano is still the elephant in the corner with this draft. If the Pirates can sign him, the level of amateur talent they've brought on board is obviously cast in a different light.
 
June 10, 2009
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cjc said:

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Also said it's easy to fall in love with high school arms, and gave stats on the dismal percentages from early rounds that ever make the big leagues. Clearly prepared remarks expecting the rather predictable questions from the crowd---money, Sano, establishing a big league core and sticking with it, McLouth.
 
June 10, 2009
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Bishop said:

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NH never said Sanchez was the third-best player in the draft; he said Sanchez was third on their board. The Pirates' draft board is made up differently than other teams, much like the A's board under Billy Beane in Moneyball, as they have to look at things such as signability whereas other teams don't worry so much about that. If NH did not view any of the other choices with the 4th pick as worth 4th pick money, then he was right to draft down, pay less than slot and save the money for later picks.

Look at the NFL. Can anyone honestly tell me that Alex Smith or Matthew Stafford are worth the obscene amount of money that they got as 1st-overall picks? They're not, but in the NFL, you get that kind of money for being 1st, not for being the best.

It is smart of NH not to overpay for players if he and the FO don't think they are worth it. Matzek wanting $7MM? After hearing that kid speak and be so concerned about $$, I wouldn't give him $7, let alone one-million times that.
 
June 10, 2009
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Bishop said:

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...cut off.

why on earth would they want to draft him and have to deal with Boras whispering in his ear? He has an out, since he could go to college, so unless the Pirates caved to his every demand, he would walk. Yes, they would get a replacement pick next year, but then everyone would just get pissed that NH didn't close the deal with the 1st-round draft pick.

NH is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He isn't going to please the fans unless he is spending gobs of money, but again, I ask, why should he if the talent is not equal to the demand for cash?
 
June 10, 2009
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spazaru said:

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I'm fairly happy so far. All signs indicate there are no sure things in this draft and Sanchez at least wants to sign and get to work or so he says. I'm still annoyed with Alvarez over last year and all his strikeouts don't make me any happier. I'm glad NH didn't overpay some hyped prospect again. Some of the late rounders might be our best hope!
 
June 10, 2009
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cjc said:

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Doing this in stages from work. Sounded from NH's remarks last night that Bucs liked Gibson, but injury made it too much of a gamble. Bishop is right in the comment below--NH said Sanchez was number 3 on the Bucs board. Clearly, the board considers multiple factors. I would image that most important among these was the lack of consensus standouts after #1 and 2 who, in FO's opinion, justified the dollars they were seeking. As NH said, they had internal dollar values on all of these guys, and it seems reasonable to me not to overpay, particulary when you looking to ultimately sign 30 or so plus working the internatinal market.
 
June 10, 2009
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bwzimmerman said:

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hear here beer here!

We've spent the past year hearing how this was not to be a deep high-quality draft beyond SS and Ackley. I'd hate to see the draft treated like the last 5 minutes of an eBay auction where you make rash decisions with money.
 
June 10, 2009
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The Duke from Dukes Court said:

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NH has to back up the Sanchez pick by drafting players with high ceilings who want higher than draft slot money. He has yet to make one of those picks, but those types of picks tend to happen in the mid to late rounds rather than on Day 1.

Nate McClouth was a 25th round pick who the Pirates payed well over slot money to sign back in 2000. Sadly drafting Nate was the exception rather than the rule in previous Pirates' drafts.
 
June 10, 2009
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Judge Smails said:

Diesel
Just when I thought they had hit a low they go and do this draft. I think the first round pick is a waste just like Bullington. We will never see sanchez do anything. This front office is just to damn cheap. They could care less about winning. I never thought that before but now I am seeing the light. These guys are focused on lining their pockets and if the pirates contend. Great! If not, who cares. They are still getting money from revenue sharing. The fans are screwed until this team is sold. Doesn't matter who the GM is as long as you have a just barely millionaire running the team.
 
June 10, 2009
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Ed Heupler said:

Draft
I can't comment on the player, but comment on the comments about him. When I read "signability", my first thought is "stingy Pirates. Afraid to go after higher quality guys because they cost more." That's the impression one leaves (intended or not) when management uses careless language like "signability" or "core player" (the McLouth comment).
As to a catcher: why draft one at all (or at least, why first)? We all know the crap shoot that is pitching. If our organization is so pitching-poor, why get a catcher? Were in desperate need of one? Will he be the guy to replace Doumit in a couple of years? And if so, will the Pirates have anyone who can hit more than 10 HRs in a season?
 
June 10, 2009
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Louise said:

Pittsburgh Pirates
Pittsburgh Pirates should be always competitive enough to keep pace with the others. I really like them; they’ve always been my favourite teams in MLB. Just read about them here:

http://www.piratesdaily.com
 
June 15, 2009
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