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Haidao
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... I sure like to find out what DGL does for a living, and go sit on him/her for awhile, and pick every fault. Be critical, but show some respect. |
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whygavs
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... I don't think he's being critical; it's true that access to Duke would help fill in the blanks here. |
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Beantown Brian
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... Thanks for the analysis, Pat. "This is the first time you can see Lincecum, Greinke, Cain, Jackson, Hernandez, Johnson and Zach Duke all suited up for an All-Star team. These are the guys, with Gallardo, Lester, Kershaw and Stephen Strasburg, who will own the game." http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/tom_verducci/07/14/young.arms/index.html Duke owns the game. |
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MrPedriqueIfYou\'reNasty
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... Agreed but I wouldn't blame Duke for not spilling the beans either since its apparently pretty under the radar still. |
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Beantown Brian
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weeee! Hey look, Selig thinks we can turn it around! He thinks the Pirates, headed to their record 17th consecutive losing season, will turn around. "When you have a club that's been down that long, it just takes a long time, and that's all I can say. But are they on the right track? They are. And I think that track will be faster than most people believe." http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4327069 |
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w.k. kortas
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... All well and good, but if Selig said "Good morning" to me, I'd check my watch to make sure. |
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DGL
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not critical Sorry if I came across as critical. I think Pat read it the way I meant it -- statistical analysis is great and reveals things that "conventional" reporting (or scouting) may not; conventional reporting and scouting gives insights that statistical analysis can't; the two together are greater than the sum of the two parts. I don't know if DK has asked Duke about what he changed from last year to this; he may have, and as Mr Pedrique conjectures, Duke may have chosen to not reveal anything. But for all I know, DK hasn't pursued this line of questioning -- there are enough "conventional wisdom" differences from last year (new pitching coach, better fielding, etc.) The PitchFX analysis reveals something, though, that goes beyond the CW, and would make for an interesting line of questioning. |
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DGL
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still not critical And to clarify -- I didn't intend to be critical to either Pat or DK. Just pointing out the synergy. |
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azibuck
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... How, the flip, do you come up with your last line?! It's a total non-sequitur. You may believe it, and may even be able to prove it, but you didn't say anything about defense here. And for what it's worth, I see a 2009 curve with more of a downward plane. It initially looks more like his other pitches, thus, is disguised more. Can't wait for Maholm's PitchFX. He must be the worst pitcher in baseball or the defense would have improved his numbers in a similar way to Duke. |
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whygavs
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... I mentioned his BABIP, which is incredibly improved this year, going from one of the worst in the NL to below league average. I mentioned his FIP, which is higher than his ERA. We've talked about the Pirates defense all year. How is it a non-sequiter to say that most of his improvement is tied up in the defense? |
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Pirate in Montana
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Thanks, Pat I have been a Zach Duke fan, even before he made the Pirates team. I was following him all through the minors. He, in my opinion, is a winner. I have no proof of this, but I strongly believe Tracy and Colborn did him wrong. It all started the first game after Tracy's announcement I shared with you last week. Like many others, Zack Duke will be a goner soon enough, but I will still follow his baseball life. |
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azibuck
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... Thanks for the Maholm post, first of all. I'd need more time to explain, but I'm not a big fan of using BABIP in isolation, and my kneejerk reaction is to not connect that to defense. Anyway, you did mention those things, but the post was about his PitchFX, and it just felt like after several hundred words about that, you concluded not A, therefore B i.e., not much PitchFx difference, therefore it's the defense. Not only do I disagree, I just didn't think you made that case. You know what it felt like? It felt like that was your conclusion before you started the post. Which is totally unfair to you, Mr. Nyjer Morgan Hater, so I apologize for saying it. Even though it's true. Yes it is. |
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whygavs
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... Quite honestly (I know you probably don't believe me, but there's not much I can do about that), I started this post expecting to see much more of a difference in something Duke is doing this year, probably his breaking pitch. I didn't run averages or check the statistics of the horizontal and vertical break of the curve and maybe I should've, but I just don't see enough visual difference in that graph to conclude that it's drastically different this year. His command is better and that's certainly important for a pitcher like him, but I'm not convinced it's enough. That's why I bring the defense into things so late in the post. After looking at everything else for an explanation, I didn't see it there and so I went back to what people have been saying all year; defense is the reason. Maybe I need to dig a little deeper. Every time I do one of these posts, I learn a little more about the nuances of PitchFX and can glean a little more out of the results. I'm not really happy with the explanation that it's solely the defense, but at least to me, it's the best one I can see right now. |
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whygavs
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... Maybe I need to dig a little deeper. Every time I do one of these posts, I learn a little more about the nuances of PitchFX and can glean a little more out of the results. I'm not really happy with the explanation that it's solely the defense, but at least to me, it's the best one I can see right now. |
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